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    So, share your thoughts and opinions about this episode?


    Note: This Discussion page ranges from 5/28 To 6/4.

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    • I'm pretty sure it's going to be Arnold Betrays Iggy (that episode is horrible) all over again...

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    • Well, there goes my first guess for this episode.

      We know that Clarence isn't a keeper of secrets. Remember in "Plane Excited?" Chad told Clarence that he was never in a plane before and said to keep it a secret, but a minute later Clarence told his mom about Chad's secret anyway. 

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    • But like since this is the main focus of the episode, I really think we're going to have the 2010s version of Arnold Betrays Iggy

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      But like since this is the main focus of the episode, I really think we're going to have the 2010s version of Arnold Betrays Iggy

      Maybe you're right. I don't like that Hey Arnold episode.

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    • Guys, after watching the trailer, the episode revealed that Jeff has 6 toes (Polydactyly) much like Stanford Pines from Gravity Falls has 6 fingers instead, i believe the episode is going to turn off bad for Jeff at the near end😕

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    • Djcof1995 wrote:
      Guys, after watching the trailer, the episode revealed that Jeff has 6 toes (Polydactyly) much like Stanford Pines from Gravity Falls has 6 fingers instead, i believe the episode is going to turn off bad for Jeff at the near end😕

      I agree with ya, man. This prove it, the Clarence crew are running out or lacking in ideas. Almost every episode of this season had turned to be letdowns.


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    • What's worse is that this is.. A RETCON THAT CHANGES JEFF DRAMATICALLY!!! In previous episodes it's 5, so is this suppose to be before Fun Dungeon or something? Like this is definitely something they got from Gravity Falls (idea plagiarism? IDK). The only episode i truely liked was Mystery Girl, and I'm sensing that this episode is going to be Arnold Betrays Iggy all over again.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      What's worse is that this is.. A RETCON THAT CHANGES JEFF DRAMATICALLY!!! In previous episodes it's 5, so is this suppose to be before Fun Dungeon or something? Like this is definitely something they got from Gravity Falls (idea plagiarism? IDK). The only episode i truely liked was Mystery Girl, and I'm sensing that this episode is going to be Arnold Betrays Iggy all over again.

      it could be, it feels like I'm starting to realize that, not only that this is going to be a bad episode for Jeff, but its about to explain to Spencer and the Clarence crew is running out of ideas if they were thinking about coming up ideas for episode, it shouldn't be something similar to othrt shows that already done before this, which leading this to a Canon Discontinuity, where it is unknown from what the episode taken either from. This kinda feels like ranging from "Mystery Girl" (still disliked that episode) to this are just a worst (or not the worst) part of this season, it ain't feel like season 2 no more, now its feel like yhe second half of Season 1 all over again.

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    • Or Modern Spongebob. You know if Skyler was accused of harrasment and getting fired (there's no proof as they were allegations), perhaps the episodes could be better and I've been seeing that everything has been getting slowly worse and worse and it peaks in the middle of season 2. This new episode also has a very VERY similar plot to the worst Hey Arnold episode (which I already mentioned). You know I don't know if I'll be mad if this episode has a plot twist where the episode is actually a dream Jeff is having, BUT STILL!! I can tell this episode will be one of the worst from a mile away and even with the title I knew this would definitely be similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy and it is.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      Or Modern Spongebob. You know if Skyler was accused of harrasment and getting fired (there's no proof as they were allegations), perhaps the episodes could be better and I've been seeing that everything has been getting slowly worse and worse and it peaks in the middle of season 2. This new episode also has a very VERY similar plot to the worst Hey Arnold episode (which I already mentioned). You know I don't know if I'll be mad if this episode has a plot twist where the episode is actually a dream Jeff is having, BUT STILL!! I can tell this episode will be one of the worst from a mile away and even with the title I knew this would definitely be similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy and it is.

      one thing for sure, i bet after all Clarence told everyone about it Jeff realizes what Clarence did and begins to stop forgiving him for spilling out secrets, and Clarence realizes that he shouldn't have never told anyone about Jeff's toes, and tries to apologize to him but unable to, is either Clarence confess his embarrassing secret or everyone realizes snd tell Jeff' that they all have something secret that they do wanna reveal it, i don't know how it will all end, BTW, i beginning to realize that either yhat not only that the episode would turn bad for Jeff, but it made me think either Spencer and the  Clarence crew is running out of ideas for making a episode, if they able find something instead of using something from another show that already been done it before this, it's like it's trying to bully and humiliate Jeff for wrong reasons, i might had heard of this before https://neoplandan.tumblr.com/post/144886957516/the-problem-with-clarence

      And it's starting to make me slowly lose interest within the show if they don't find anything that Clarence was originally about, and for us to shortsighted on this, despite being 2 years old and it's already starting to become from bad to worse, as it went through dramatically but drastically changed, TBH, when i first watched the show, my interest grew in as it explore how it is in reality about relationships between friends, family, etc in different characteristics, class, and backgrounds and has the similar feel for such slice of life shows (Hey Arnold, Doug, and Ed, Edd n Eddy), as you take a step forward to now, the show beginning to slow lose it's originality and it's slice of life characteristics is limited as of now, where it's all about trying to entertain but everything ended up being a dud.

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    • And what's worse is that it's starting to copy ideas from the BAD episodes of Hey Arnold! and here the most obvious is that the upcoming episode is too similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy.

      Like now it's the point where Jeff is now more of a huge asshole (it all started with a very terrible episode and an okay episode along with the series premire) and being out of character more frequently. It's pretty clear that he's becoming more like Sid and Curly (mainly Sid because Sid initially started off with good behavior, but by the end of the show he became a jerk which reached it's peak in Bag of Money and he was in between having a good and bad personallity and like with Jeff sometimes he apologizes but most of the time this doesn't happen).  I'm guessing that Jeff is probably going to something like what Iggy did at the end of that horrible episode in this upcoming one. I think I'm actually starting to lose interest as well, but I DON'T KNOW IF I AM!!!

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      And what's worse is that it's starting to copy ideas from the BAD episodes of Hey Arnold! and here the most obvious is that the upcoming episode is too similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy. Like Jeff has been a jerk and it's pretty clear that he's becoming more like Sid and Curly now (mainly Sid because Sid initially started off with good behavior, but by the end of the show he became a jerk which reached it's peak in Bag of Money and he was in between having a good and bad personallity and like with Jeff sometimes he apologizes but most of the time this doesn't happen).  I'm guessing that Jeff is probably going to something like what Iggy did at the end of that horrible episode. I think I'm actually starting to lose interest as well.

      Same here, i might predict that it'll wind up catching Clarence bac, i really not like how it ends and i hope it gets over it and move on, like said, kids can be mean when it comes to something they find it embarrassing or to make fun of.


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    • Catching Clarence bac (sorry I didn't understand it)? But still like if you look in the fandoms history you can see that Jeff initally had a gigantic fanbase and having huge acclaim. But it slowly started to fall apart and I blame this with Average Jeff (which is the worst depiction of Jeff) which initially had acclaim but people quickly realized that this was a horrible episode (like a couple months after it's premire) and Jeff's reception and fanbase have been going down since then and now it's only a tiny fraciton of what it once was. Jeff has been villainous on several occasions such as being the main antagonist of Breehn Ho! and being a huge asshole in The Big Petey Pizza Problem and Escape from Beyond the Cosmic and now I think it's pretty clear that he is no longer likeable at this point. I've seen a few people on tumblr who still really like Jeff, specially EoinGhost, the very talented Chum (mrvhs) and maxwelllabs but that's all the people that I know who still like him and I see no results of people mentioning how they love Jeff or like him as much anymore. It's just really dramatic to see how this one character use to have a fanbase and acclaim only to have most of the fanbase gone and having a negative reception in less than 2 years.

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    • Djcof1995 wrote:
      Jfgoofy wrote:
      Or Modern Spongebob. You know if Skyler was accused of harrasment and getting fired (there's no proof as they were allegations), perhaps the episodes could be better and I've been seeing that everything has been getting slowly worse and worse and it peaks in the middle of season 2. This new episode also has a very VERY similar plot to the worst Hey Arnold episode (which I already mentioned). You know I don't know if I'll be mad if this episode has a plot twist where the episode is actually a dream Jeff is having, BUT STILL!! I can tell this episode will be one of the worst from a mile away and even with the title I knew this would definitely be similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy and it is.
      one thing for sure, i bet after all Clarence told everyone about it Jeff realizes what Clarence did and begins to stop forgiving him for spilling out secrets, and Clarence realizes that he shouldn't have never told anyone about Jeff's toes, and tries to apologize to him but unable to, is either Clarence confess his embarrassing secret or everyone realizes snd tell Jeff' that they all have something secret that they do wanna reveal it, i don't know how it will all end, BTW, i beginning to realize that either yhat not only that the episode would turn bad for Jeff, but it made me think either Spencer and the  Clarence crew is running out of ideas for making a episode, if they able find something instead of using something from another show that already been done it before this, it's like it's trying to bully and humiliate Jeff for wrong reasons, i might had heard of this before https://neoplandan.tumblr.com/post/144886957516/the-problem-with-clarence

      And it's starting to make me slowly lose interest within the show if they don't find anything that Clarence was originally about, and for us to shortsighted on this, despite being 2 years old and it's already starting to become from bad to worse, as it went through dramatically but drastically changed, TBH, when i first watched the show, my interest grew in as it explore how it is in reality about relationships between friends, family, etc in different characteristics, class, and backgrounds and has the similar feel for such slice of life shows (Hey Arnold, Doug, and Ed, Edd n Eddy), as you take a step forward to now, the show beginning to slow lose it's originality and it's slice of life characteristics is limited as of now, where it's all about trying to entertain but everything ended up being a dud.

      I'm with you guys. The more I keep thinking about this, the more bad thoughts of how it might play. I argee to what Djcof said that he thinks Clarence tells everyone what Jeff's secret is and then everyone makes fun of him. And Jeff feels upset and mad for what Clarence just did that Jeff would never forgive him and stop being his friend. 

      Like Jfgoofy said, there are some episodes that Jeff did some things almost like a villain. However, his actions are out of jealousy or being push to far. In the end Jeff knows the wrongs he did and shows he never mean to do them. If this episode is karma for his past actions, I say that's a new low for the Clarence crew.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      Catching Clarence bac (sorry I didn't understand it)? But still like if you look in the fandoms history you can see that Jeff initally had a gigantic fanbase and having huge acclaim. But it slowly started to fall apart and I blame this with Average Jeff (which is the worst depiction of Jeff) which initially had acclaim but people quickly realized that this was a horrible episode (like a couple months after it's premire) and Jeff's reception and fanbase have been going down since then and now it's only a tiny fraciton of what it once was. Jeff has been villainous on several occasions such as being the main antagonist of Breehn Ho! and being a huge asshole in The Big Petey Pizza Problem and Escape from Beyond the Cosmic and now I think it's pretty clear that he is no longer likeable at this point. I've seen a few people on tumblr who still really like Jeff, specially EoinGhost, the very talented Chum (mrvhs) and maxwelllabs but that's all the people that I know who still like him and I see no results of people mentioning how they love Jeff or like him as much anymore. It's just really dramatic to see how this one character use to have a fanbase and acclaim only to have most of the fanbase gone and having a negative reception in less than 2 years.

      i might had messed up with "Catching Clarence bac" part, it's because with not only Jeff becoming unlikable, i kinda put Clarence in that position of it, with him not good of hiding secrets from friends it made feel that ut might not end well and i beginning to hate Clarence for doing thst, he wouldn't like it if he told secret to someone that would not keep it and go around spilling it to everyone and by them calling out on Clarence, and he realizes that , he would desperately cry. Now getting back to about the Jeff part, i see when you said the Mrvhs, maxwelllabs, and EoinGhost liking Jeff, that's about it, tbh, i never personally favored Jeff, only place him as neutral, from a while ago i used to like Clarence, but after until "Lil Buddy" and "Where the wild Chads Are" of what he did was extremely hurtful to me and it made hate Clarence for real, making me feel like i wanna punch him straight in his face from what he did in those two episodes, made me realize that he had learned nothing for his actions and then constantly gets away with it, which constantly  pisses me off!😠. However for everyone else been hated him, calling him "Retarded", "dumb", "gross",etc, ftom at yhat time i was in the position of defending Clarence from all of the negativity, look at me now, i no longer defend him, it's the show i rather least defend than the characters itself.

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    • EoinGhost wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      Jfgoofy wrote:
      Or Modern Spongebob. You know if Skyler was accused of harrasment and getting fired (there's no proof as they were allegations), perhaps the episodes could be better and I've been seeing that everything has been getting slowly worse and worse and it peaks in the middle of season 2. This new episode also has a very VERY similar plot to the worst Hey Arnold episode (which I already mentioned). You know I don't know if I'll be mad if this episode has a plot twist where the episode is actually a dream Jeff is having, BUT STILL!! I can tell this episode will be one of the worst from a mile away and even with the title I knew this would definitely be similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy and it is.
      one thing for sure, i bet after all Clarence told everyone about it Jeff realizes what Clarence did and begins to stop forgiving him for spilling out secrets, and Clarence realizes that he shouldn't have never told anyone about Jeff's toes, and tries to apologize to him but unable to, is either Clarence confess his embarrassing secret or everyone realizes snd tell Jeff' that they all have something secret that they do wanna reveal it, i don't know how it will all end, BTW, i beginning to realize that either yhat not only that the episode would turn bad for Jeff, but it made me think either Spencer and the  Clarence crew is running out of ideas for making a episode, if they able find something instead of using something from another show that already been done it before this, it's like it's trying to bully and humiliate Jeff for wrong reasons, i might had heard of this before https://neoplandan.tumblr.com/post/144886957516/the-problem-with-clarenceAnd it's starting to make me slowly lose interest within the show if they don't find anything that Clarence was originally about, and for us to shortsighted on this, despite being 2 years old and it's already starting to become from bad to worse, as it went through dramatically but drastically changed, TBH, when i first watched the show, my interest grew in as it explore how it is in reality about relationships between friends, family, etc in different characteristics, class, and backgrounds and has the similar feel for such slice of life shows (Hey Arnold, Doug, and Ed, Edd n Eddy), as you take a step forward to now, the show beginning to slow lose it's originality and it's slice of life characteristics is limited as of now, where it's all about trying to entertain but everything ended up being a dud.
      I'm with you guys. The more I keep thinking about this, the more bad thoughts of how it might play. I argee to what Djcof said that he thinks Clarence tells everyone what Jeff's secret is and then everyone makes fun of him. And Jeff feels upset and mad for what Clarence just did that Jeff would never forgive him and stop being his friend. 

      Like Jfgoofy said, there are some episodes that Jeff did some things almost like a villain. However, his actions are out of jealousy or being push to far. In the end Jeff knows the wrongs he did and shows he never mean to do them. If this episode is karma for his past actions, I say that's a new low for the Clarence crew.

      exactly, idk what I'm going to do with this. As far as i can say, this may be the last time I ever tried to look at a episode that might start a uproar or make every character feel worse. this may be worse than Lil Buddy.

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    • Djcof1995 wrote:
      EoinGhost wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      Jfgoofy wrote:
      Or Modern Spongebob. You know if Skyler was accused of harrasment and getting fired (there's no proof as they were allegations), perhaps the episodes could be better and I've been seeing that everything has been getting slowly worse and worse and it peaks in the middle of season 2. This new episode also has a very VERY similar plot to the worst Hey Arnold episode (which I already mentioned). You know I don't know if I'll be mad if this episode has a plot twist where the episode is actually a dream Jeff is having, BUT STILL!! I can tell this episode will be one of the worst from a mile away and even with the title I knew this would definitely be similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy and it is.
      one thing for sure, i bet after all Clarence told everyone about it Jeff realizes what Clarence did and begins to stop forgiving him for spilling out secrets, and Clarence realizes that he shouldn't have never told anyone about Jeff's toes, and tries to apologize to him but unable to, is either Clarence confess his embarrassing secret or everyone realizes snd tell Jeff' that they all have something secret that they do wanna reveal it, i don't know how it will all end, BTW, i beginning to realize that either yhat not only that the episode would turn bad for Jeff, but it made me think either Spencer and the  Clarence crew is running out of ideas for making a episode, if they able find something instead of using something from another show that already been done it before this, it's like it's trying to bully and humiliate Jeff for wrong reasons, i might had heard of this before https://neoplandan.tumblr.com/post/144886957516/the-problem-with-clarenceAnd it's starting to make me slowly lose interest within the show if they don't find anything that Clarence was originally about, and for us to shortsighted on this, despite being 2 years old and it's already starting to become from bad to worse, as it went through dramatically but drastically changed, TBH, when i first watched the show, my interest grew in as it explore how it is in reality about relationships between friends, family, etc in different characteristics, class, and backgrounds and has the similar feel for such slice of life shows (Hey Arnold, Doug, and Ed, Edd n Eddy), as you take a step forward to now, the show beginning to slow lose it's originality and it's slice of life characteristics is limited as of now, where it's all about trying to entertain but everything ended up being a dud.
      I'm with you guys. The more I keep thinking about this, the more bad thoughts of how it might play. I argee to what Djcof said that he thinks Clarence tells everyone what Jeff's secret is and then everyone makes fun of him. And Jeff feels upset and mad for what Clarence just did that Jeff would never forgive him and stop being his friend. 

      Like Jfgoofy said, there are some episodes that Jeff did some things almost like a villain. However, his actions are out of jealousy or being push to far. In the end Jeff knows the wrongs he did and shows he never mean to do them. If this episode is karma for his past actions, I say that's a new low for the Clarence crew.

      exactly, idk what I'm going to do with this. As far as i can say, this may be the last time I ever tried to look at a episode that might start a uproar or make every character feel worse. this may be worse than Lil Buddy.

      I know what you mean. I saw what put down about what Clarence did in Lil Buddy and Where the wild Chads Are. I know your not a Jeff fan, but to me Jeff is only reason why I was in to Clarence in the first place. I like everything about Jeff except for his bad side. What the crew  just did to him was uncalled for and I'm still mad about it.

      As for Clarence, I never like him. Just to by honest, I think he's not the answer for everything. I mean, look what he did in "Jeff's Wins". EJ and Sue asked him to help Jeff with his cook off problem. Yeah, instead of going by the cook book, all Clarence did was told Jeff to mix random stuff and made poison. When Clarence try it out, he thought Jeff didn't fellow what he said. I also hate that song, "I'm not uptight as Jeff". Like I said about Plane Excited, Chad told Clarence to keep it a secret, but Clarence told Mary about Chad's secret. Also with the synopisis saying "Jeff begs Clarence to keep his secret, but Clarence is tempted to tell the school". It shows me that Clarence can't be trusted with secrets. 

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    • EoinGhost wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      EoinGhost wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      Jfgoofy wrote:
      Or Modern Spongebob. You know if Skyler was accused of harrasment and getting fired (there's no proof as they were allegations), perhaps the episodes could be better and I've been seeing that everything has been getting slowly worse and worse and it peaks in the middle of season 2. This new episode also has a very VERY similar plot to the worst Hey Arnold episode (which I already mentioned). You know I don't know if I'll be mad if this episode has a plot twist where the episode is actually a dream Jeff is having, BUT STILL!! I can tell this episode will be one of the worst from a mile away and even with the title I knew this would definitely be similar to Arnold Betrays Iggy and it is.
      one thing for sure, i bet after all Clarence told everyone about it Jeff realizes what Clarence did and begins to stop forgiving him for spilling out secrets, and Clarence realizes that he shouldn't have never told anyone about Jeff's toes, and tries to apologize to him but unable to, is either Clarence confess his embarrassing secret or everyone realizes snd tell Jeff' that they all have something secret that they do wanna reveal it, i don't know how it will all end, BTW, i beginning to realize that either yhat not only that the episode would turn bad for Jeff, but it made me think either Spencer and the  Clarence crew is running out of ideas for making a episode, if they able find something instead of using something from another show that already been done it before this, it's like it's trying to bully and humiliate Jeff for wrong reasons, i might had heard of this before https://neoplandan.tumblr.com/post/144886957516/the-problem-with-clarenceAnd it's starting to make me slowly lose interest within the show if they don't find anything that Clarence was originally about, and for us to shortsighted on this, despite being 2 years old and it's already starting to become from bad to worse, as it went through dramatically but drastically changed, TBH, when i first watched the show, my interest grew in as it explore how it is in reality about relationships between friends, family, etc in different characteristics, class, and backgrounds and has the similar feel for such slice of life shows (Hey Arnold, Doug, and Ed, Edd n Eddy), as you take a step forward to now, the show beginning to slow lose it's originality and it's slice of life characteristics is limited as of now, where it's all about trying to entertain but everything ended up being a dud.
      I'm with you guys. The more I keep thinking about this, the more bad thoughts of how it might play. I argee to what Djcof said that he thinks Clarence tells everyone what Jeff's secret is and then everyone makes fun of him. And Jeff feels upset and mad for what Clarence just did that Jeff would never forgive him and stop being his friend. 

      Like Jfgoofy said, there are some episodes that Jeff did some things almost like a villain. However, his actions are out of jealousy or being push to far. In the end Jeff knows the wrongs he did and shows he never mean to do them. If this episode is karma for his past actions, I say that's a new low for the Clarence crew.

      exactly, idk what I'm going to do with this. As far as i can say, this may be the last time I ever tried to look at a episode that might start a uproar or make every character feel worse. this may be worse than Lil Buddy.
      I know what you mean. I saw what put down about what Clarence did in Lil Buddy and Where the wild Chads Are. I know your not a Jeff fan, but to me Jeff is only reason why I was in to Clarence in the first place. I like everything about Jeff except for his bad side. What the crew  just did to him was uncalled for and I'm still mad about it.

      As for Clarence, I never like him. Just to by honest, I think he's not the answer for everything. I mean, look what he did in "Jeff's Wins". EJ and Sue asked him to help Jeff with his cook off problem. Yeah, instead of going by the cook book, all Clarence did was told Jeff to mix random stuff and made poison. When Clarence try it out, he thought Jeff didn't fellow what he said. I also hate that song, "I'm not uptight as Jeff". Like I said about Plane Excited, Chad told Clarence to keep it a secret, but Clarence told Mary about Chad's secret. Also with the synopisis saying "Jeff begs Clarence to keep his secret, but Clarence is tempted to tell the school". It shows me that Clarence can't be trusted with secrets. 

      exactly, I'm starting get to the point where ain't none of the characters (except For Amy Gillis, Nathan, Breehn, and Dustin) are favorable anyone, and it's getting me to the fact that this became nothing but garbage and a waste of time, i don't even know how we would get this far.

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    • Djcof1995 wrote:
      Jfgoofy wrote:
      Catching Clarence bac (sorry I didn't understand it)? But still like if you look in the fandoms history you can see that Jeff initally had a gigantic fanbase and having huge acclaim. But it slowly started to fall apart and I blame this with Average Jeff (which is the worst depiction of Jeff) which initially had acclaim but people quickly realized that this was a horrible episode (like a couple months after it's premire) and Jeff's reception and fanbase have been going down since then and now it's only a tiny fraciton of what it once was. Jeff has been villainous on several occasions such as being the main antagonist of Breehn Ho! and being a huge asshole in The Big Petey Pizza Problem and Escape from Beyond the Cosmic and now I think it's pretty clear that he is no longer likeable at this point. I've seen a few people on tumblr who still really like Jeff, specially EoinGhost, the very talented Chum (mrvhs) and maxwelllabs but that's all the people that I know who still like him and I see no results of people mentioning how they love Jeff or like him as much anymore. It's just really dramatic to see how this one character use to have a fanbase and acclaim only to have most of the fanbase gone and having a negative reception in less than 2 years.
      i might had messed up with "Catching Clarence bac" part, it's because with not only Jeff becoming unlikable, i kinda put Clarence in that position of it, with him not good of hiding secrets from friends it made feel that ut might not end well and i beginning to hate Clarence for doing thst, he wouldn't like it if he told secret to someone that would not keep it and go around spilling it to everyone and by them calling out on Clarence, and he realizes that , he would desperately cry. Now getting back to about the Jeff part, i see when you said the Mrvhs, maxwelllabs, and EoinGhost liking Jeff, that's about it, tbh, i never personally favored Jeff, only place him as neutral, from a while ago i used to like Clarence, but after until "Lil Buddy" and "Where the wild Chads Are" of what he did was extremely hurtful to me and it made hate Clarence for real, making me feel like i wanna punch him straight in his face from what he did in those two episodes, made me realize that he had learned nothing for his actions and then constantly gets away with it, which constantly  pisses me off!😠. However for everyone else been hated him, calling him "Retarded", "dumb", "gross",etc, ftom at yhat time i was in the position of defending Clarence from all of the negativity, look at me now, i no longer defend him, it's the show i rather least defend than the characters itself.

      It's pretty sad now, Clarence use to be likeable, but since Skyler was kicked out due to the accusations of being a sexual assaulter which we don't even know if it really did happened now the Clarence crew is making the 2/3 of the trio look like bullies (Jeff and Clarence). Hell I think Sumo, Breehn and Chelsea and all the other recurring characters are more likeable now.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      Jfgoofy wrote:
      Catching Clarence bac (sorry I didn't understand it)? But still like if you look in the fandoms history you can see that Jeff initally had a gigantic fanbase and having huge acclaim. But it slowly started to fall apart and I blame this with Average Jeff (which is the worst depiction of Jeff) which initially had acclaim but people quickly realized that this was a horrible episode (like a couple months after it's premire) and Jeff's reception and fanbase have been going down since then and now it's only a tiny fraciton of what it once was. Jeff has been villainous on several occasions such as being the main antagonist of Breehn Ho! and being a huge asshole in The Big Petey Pizza Problem and Escape from Beyond the Cosmic and now I think it's pretty clear that he is no longer likeable at this point. I've seen a few people on tumblr who still really like Jeff, specially EoinGhost, the very talented Chum (mrvhs) and maxwelllabs but that's all the people that I know who still like him and I see no results of people mentioning how they love Jeff or like him as much anymore. It's just really dramatic to see how this one character use to have a fanbase and acclaim only to have most of the fanbase gone and having a negative reception in less than 2 years.
      i might had messed up with "Catching Clarence bac" part, it's because with not only Jeff becoming unlikable, i kinda put Clarence in that position of it, with him not good of hiding secrets from friends it made feel that ut might not end well and i beginning to hate Clarence for doing thst, he wouldn't like it if he told secret to someone that would not keep it and go around spilling it to everyone and by them calling out on Clarence, and he realizes that , he would desperately cry. Now getting back to about the Jeff part, i see when you said the Mrvhs, maxwelllabs, and EoinGhost liking Jeff, that's about it, tbh, i never personally favored Jeff, only place him as neutral, from a while ago i used to like Clarence, but after until "Lil Buddy" and "Where the wild Chads Are" of what he did was extremely hurtful to me and it made hate Clarence for real, making me feel like i wanna punch him straight in his face from what he did in those two episodes, made me realize that he had learned nothing for his actions and then constantly gets away with it, which constantly  pisses me off!😠. However for everyone else been hated him, calling him "Retarded", "dumb", "gross",etc, ftom at yhat time i was in the position of defending Clarence from all of the negativity, look at me now, i no longer defend him, it's the show i rather least defend than the characters itself.
      It's pretty sad now, Clarence use to be likeable, but since Skyler was kicked out due to the accusations of being a sexual assaulter which we don't even know if it really did happened now the Clarence crew is making the 2/3 of the trio look like bullies (Jeff and Clarence). Hell I think Sumo, Breehn and Chelsea and all the other recurring characters are more likeable now.

      sad, but true, i hope it ended quietly and hoping for no uproar,  from the way i heard from the comments on YouTube, discussing about Jeff referring him as "Ford's Son" and "The  Author", and from one user responed in his own words:" The Clarence crew messed up with this and here's why. In Nature Clarence, Water Park, and Beach Blast, we saw that Jeff had 5 toes on both of his feet. But in the up-coming episode, now he's got a 6th toe. They Changed Jeff's Character in this. I always thought Jeff's Secret would be about something to do with his family or git a hobby that he didn't want his friends to know. It's like the writers are lacking in ideas now. Now that i think the user just said is telling a truth (i don't know if this user "LiuzReturns987", who said "I always thought Jeff's Secret would be about something to do with his family or got a hobby that he didn't want his friends to know" in which kinda similar to EoinGhost just said from here and in Tumblr, i don't if Eoin has a YouTube account named "LiuzReturns987"😕

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    • Liuzreturns987 IS EoinGhost, just to let you know. But still it's just sad to see that the Clarence crew are now trying to retcon already established stuff into something that doesn't even make sense or use ideas STOLEN (or most likely borrowed) from other shows (Gravity Falls for example with the polydactyl).

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      Liuzreturns987 IS EoinGhost, just to let you know. But still it's just sad to see that the Clarence crew are now trying to retcon already established stuff into something that doesn't even make sense or stuff STOLEN from other shows (Gravity Falls which is the next episode).

      Oh😮, no wonder why i remember someone saying something similar in these words of what he said Btw my yt username is: NeoplanEZ95 (Formerly SCPH 7501)

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    • TBH, i didn't came to this show for them to lose the slice of life spark and then turn it into something unoriginal and generic by copying others!?😲, well it seems like we can't do anything about it, our only decision is we either watch or not watch, it kinda feels like the show is now similar to the well hated idiotic TTG and the piss poor Nu PPG, and it feels like they going through another seasonal rit for the 2nd time since last year 2nd half of season 1.

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    • It jumped the shark real fast by the end of season 1. It's kind of sad that without Skyler (Who was fired after the allegations and heck we don't even know if they were real or not, because Patrick was talking about how he was in a mental hospital or something but all of a sudden he's okay and he doesn't look too happy on his IG) the show is now what it wasn't suppose to be.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      It jumped the shark real fast by the end of season 1. It's kind of sad that without Skyler (Who was fired after the allegations and heck we don't even know if they were real or not, because Patrick was talking about how he was in a mental hospital or something but all of a sudden he's okay and he doesn't look too happy on his IG) the show is now what it wasn't suppose to be.

      TBH, i think when during the Skyler Page-era episode was trying to not look realistic, but to be realistic, ever we had a few bad apples (e.g Nature Clarence, Average Jeff, and Bedside Manners), it still had it's thing in mind than trying to be like other CN shows, I'm not say that when Spencer took over, and things began to change dramatically and drastically to bad, it could be when they hired new storyboard artist and writers, who's has no experience on how the Clarence show works, they obviously add BS that is not related to the series period.

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    • So who are these new writers (I don't really care about them, but now I'm interested)? Also I think one of the examples was when in the Page era it was mostly 90s technology with some modern stuff (because Spencer said the show was based off of shows from the 90s that they watched as children) but after his final episode and when they got new writers MORE MODERN STUFF APPEARED which overshadowed the 90s/early 2000s stuff!!! 

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      So who are these new writers (I don't really care about them, but now I'm interested)? Also I think one of the examples was when in the Page era it was mostly 90s technology with some modern stuff (because Spencer said the show was based off of shows from the 90s that they watched as children) but after his final episode and when they got new writers MORE MODERN STUFF APPEARED which overshadowed the 90s/early 2000s stuff!!! 

      "these new writers" that I'm talking about and I'm describe the nanes (Sam-Kremers-Nedell, and others i can't describe). As for all of this may have been because a lot of older people (including  Skyler) left, and newer people came in and that's when things became out of place, BTW, i tweet to Spencer about Jeff's toes and in his response: "I guess you have to watch the episode and find out".

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    • There is some twist at the end from that tweet and I am very certain that it's gonna be a very BS ending, which could either 1) This all a dream but then something happens right after like in Average Jeff and 2) Cruel ending with Jeff (or perhaps Clarence) getting unfairly punished

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      There is some twist at the end from that tweet and I am very certain that it's gonna be a very BS ending, which could either 1) This all a dream but then something happens right after like in Average Jeff and 2) Cruel ending with Jeff (or perhaps Clarence) getting unfairly punished

      or it could end up where after Clarence who already told everyone and jeff realizes that and everyone begging him to show off and after he shows them regarding to reactions whether it's a "ohh, coool" or with a disgust, we'll see.

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    • I think what you said would be the middle of the episode. I think what you said will happen in the episode, but then again it's a guess.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      I think what you said would be the middle of the episode. I think what you said will happen in the episode, but then again it's a guess.

      true.

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    • so now it's a bit anticlimactic, and as it turns out only a few kids have their secrets revealed though didn't like much about the episode after realizing that he wore something to cover up his other toe, but this is confusing and odd.

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    • This episode was pretty bad.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      This episode was pretty bad.

      it's a bit anticlimactic, but still disappointed on what the writers added for Jeff's character (extra toes, really?), i got nothing to add for this *faceplam*

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    • Well at least it didn't go the Arnold Betrays Iggy route completely, but for most of it, it felt like it and it was quite a boring episode.

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    • Jfgoofy wrote:
      Well at least it didn't go the Arnold Betrays Iggy route completely, but for most of it, it felt like it and it was quite a boring episode.

      oh well, as for this one was nothing but a misunderstanding, but like they always say "better luck next time".

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    • Like I said, this episode was 100% nothing I had in mind. I feel bad for Jeff how he was thinking if the other kids see as a freak. Also, this a little same as Detention. Well, after the episode I been thinking of trying to get use to this part of Jeff now.

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    • EoinGhost wrote:
      Like I said, this episode was 100% nothing I had in mind. I feel bad for Jeff how he was thinking if the other kids see as a freak. Also, this a little same as Detention. Well, after the episode I been thinking of trying to get use to this part of Jeff now.

      despite of all this were just in our personal opinion because it kinda feel like we didn't want the show to basically taking ideas from another show.

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    • Djcof1995 wrote:
      EoinGhost wrote:
      Like I said, this episode was 100% nothing I had in mind. I feel bad for Jeff how he was thinking if the other kids see as a freak. Also, this a little same as Detention. Well, after the episode I been thinking of trying to get use to this part of Jeff now.
      despite of all this were just in our personal opinion because it kinda feel like we didn't want the show to basically taking ideas from another show.

      Don't worry, I agree. 

      Also, I missed hear of what EJ said to Clarence when he asked why they didn't cut off the little toe when Jeff was a baby. I was rewatching Jeff's Secret on Dailymotion, EJ said, "We can't make that decision for him. He maybe wanted to keep it later on." Well, what I thought she said was, "It wasn't our choice to make for him." I'm so dumb. I thoguht it might show us that Jeff could be adopted.

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    • EoinGhost wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      EoinGhost wrote:
      Like I said, this episode was 100% nothing I had in mind. I feel bad for Jeff how he was thinking if the other kids see as a freak. Also, this a little same as Detention. Well, after the episode I been thinking of trying to get use to this part of Jeff now.
      despite of all this were just in our personal opinion because it kinda feel like we didn't want the show to basically taking ideas from another show.
      Don't worry, I agree. 

      Also, I missed hear of what EJ said to Clarence when he asked why they didn't cut off the little toe when Jeff was a baby. I was rewatching Jeff's Secret on Dailymotion, EJ said, "We can't make that decision for him. He maybe wanted to keep it later on." Well, what I thought she said was, "It wasn't our choice to make for him." I'm so dumb. I thoguht it might show us that Jeff could be adopted.

      idk, it kinda feels like we kinda gotten it all in our heads over something that wasn't realistically a concern, also i didn't know it until when sue showed us show cement like thing that showed how his feet and hands should look, and after that it showed Jeff removing the cover (where we assumed that was 5 toes), showing the other one, fir thw remainer of this episode kinda showed that now everyone is born perfect, it showed Camden had no eyelashes, Malessica's right ear is hairy, Vu has 3 nipples (although thay third one is called a supernumerary nipple), and Nathan's thumb is something that i can't describe though.

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    • Djcof1995 wrote:
      EoinGhost wrote:
      Djcof1995 wrote:
      EoinGhost wrote:
      Like I said, this episode was 100% nothing I had in mind. I feel bad for Jeff how he was thinking if the other kids see as a freak. Also, this a little same as Detention. Well, after the episode I been thinking of trying to get use to this part of Jeff now.
      despite of all this were just in our personal opinion because it kinda feel like we didn't want the show to basically taking ideas from another show.
      Don't worry, I agree. 

      Also, I missed hear of what EJ said to Clarence when he asked why they didn't cut off the little toe when Jeff was a baby. I was rewatching Jeff's Secret on Dailymotion, EJ said, "We can't make that decision for him. He maybe wanted to keep it later on." Well, what I thought she said was, "It wasn't our choice to make for him." I'm so dumb. I thoguht it might show us that Jeff could be adopted.

      idk, it kinda feels like we kinda gotten it all in our heads over something that wasn't realistically a concern, also i didn't know it until when sue showed us show cement like thing that showed how his feet and hands should look, and after that it showed Jeff removing the cover (where we assumed that was 5 toes), showing the other one, fir thw remainer of this episode kinda showed that now everyone is born perfect, it showed Camden had no eyelashes, Malessica's right ear is hairy, Vu has 3 nipples (although thay third one is called a supernumerary nipple), and Nathan's thumb is something that i can't describe though.

      Same here. I don't know to think of it now.

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    • My frickin fav episode of clarence

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